What do you mean people other than police can have blue sleeves!?
Even if I didn’t have an affinity for electrical storms, Donner is AWESOME-looking.
I wonder who that mysterious vigilante could be?
It’s Winston, of course.
No-one would think that the bunny that never wakes is actually a gun-toting vigilante!
ok ben looks freaking BADDASS.
also nice name he came up for himself there.
…and where the meow did he get all of this?
wait does he have both a pistol and a sword what
THAT’S THE EMP KATANA FROM TRACK 11
The hilt is wrong. It’s probably the first copy?
Still a good idea to keep around given the odds of actually running it Gear again. Doubt she would like her mechanical arm going kaput any more than anyone else likes it being pointed at them.
Nope, actually the same color. So methinks it is the same sword, in which case I so want to see him take on Gear with it!
I just checked that is 35′s EMP Katana
If he has sword. then he’s using the wrong weapon for point blank fight.
Looks like the right weapon for holding someone at gunpoint though. But yeah, he should probably keep a bit of a distance, even if they’re two against one.
Hey, ummm…so is it too late to take some acrylic to the pink handle?
You are right. He needs to tone it down a notch. If he looks TOO awesome, he might start taking spotlight away from Steffi.
Yeah, I mean holy shit. He’s like a colourful Raidou Kuzunoha.
I wouldn’t worry about it, personally. Benzene may look awesome, and he might get the scene’s spotlight due to the novelty of it, but don’t forget that Steffi’s the glory hog.
That’s what I said!
Never happen. If he took the lead, they’d be the Donner Party. And no one wants that.
Thanks for the pun!
Don’t want to ruin the page but doesn’t blitz mean lightning not thunder. I’m pretty sure it does, but just saying.
Blitz is lightning, Donner is thunder
dang, I was hoping it’ll be kreig. oh well.
Nope, that’s war. I assume you’re thinking of blitzkrieg, which literally means “lightning war”
Picture Benzene dressed like Strider Hiryu.
heavy probably was, and given the ordnance, plus what ever else is in that costume, ‘War’ might not have been a bad name.
Like Donner better, but “Kreig!” is a nice battle cry yelled at the top of your lungs…
thanks for the language lesson! din’t know that kraig meant war. i thought it meant strike.
Donner is definitely a better name than Prancer?
I really want to see that now. Just one superhero in this universe called Prancer. I love it!!!
Ah sorry, misread the joke. Thanks for replying Cube.
“…I was about to say Vixen, but people probably would have taken it the wrong way.”
Or ‘Prancer’, at least there wasn’t a ‘Mincer’ on that team
I mostly expected it to be Benzene, just the heights didn’t seem to match with the panel. Gloves on the other hand, yes, should have expected a costume. Like I knew it had to be someone we’ve seen already (in the comic) otherwise why else would they be there. Basically it was narrow enough to say there’s a batman that uses guns.
Now will Ben make like batman and not use the gun, or does he get talked down to with “Never point a gun at anything you aren’t willing to kill or destroy.”
UGH, he better not pull a Batman, Batman is the least effective superhero EVER. If Canis doesn’t drop that piece, the bare minimum would be shooting him in the hand. (And depending on where he hits, that might set off the uzi anyways. Far safer (for the officer) to just blow out one of his vertebrae (not that I expect we’d see that in this comic))
Pulling a Batman is not the statement you think it is. Pulling a Batman is vanishing without anybody noticing. Making other people do exactly what you want them to by words alone.
Actually pulling a batman would be more this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYVilmnMFpY
what comic are you reading
I probably should have said “pulling a dark knight”, wherein refusing to kill the joker results in the joker (surprise, surprise!) escaping and killing people again.
If Cho is on her toes, she is currently diving behind something while Rover’s attention is turned.
True dat, in fact, I suspect that (or a variation thereon)’s what’ll happen.
Canis is just Shorter than we expected 8)
Guns are an effective threat eve if you aren’t willing to use them. Ben and Steffi have thus far been pretty conscientious about not killing people.
I wonder what Edna’s take on Ben’s outfit would be…
The cape is very short, so it might pass, but the tie seems like hazard waiting to happen.
It’s probably a clip-on or some spacefuture tie.
It might just be a clip-on tie!
That’s not a cape, can’t recall the proper name but it’s not a ‘cape’
Thought you mean the jacket at first, but you do get jackets with that thing on the shoulder (believe the jackets are called ‘dusters’, and typically worn by ranchers)
It’s an inverness cape/cloak/coat.
You mean a mantle?
It is mantle you’re thinking of, it’s called that not just on dusters, but on sailor suits too 8)
That’s the thing, was also thinking ‘shawl’ but knew that that wasn’t correct
Mantle, I think. The second mantle worn by a hero in an awesome webcomic. (Admittedly Quig’s status as a “hero” is debatable.)
I believe it is called a mantle
[Edna Mode mode] NO TI…vait…zat actzually lookz qvite ztylish…Yez…YEZZZZZZ! Ze tie may be kept! [/Edna Mode mode]
Is it bad alllll I could think of was a doner kebab when I heard the name? With that said damnn what an entrance, tie flowing all up in that wind.
Where’d he get the gun? Buying a stun gun off the internet is one thing, but an actual firearm where even the police rank-and-file and a bank manager have to use stun guns…
It could be pretty easy to get normal guns, actually; there’s so much less paperwork for shooting someone with a stun gun than there is for putting a new hole in them, though, and stun rounds are generally more “acceptable” in terms of collateral damage than bullets are, both in terms of property and bystanders. At point-blank, though, against someone with an uzi pointed at someone you don’t want perforated, I’d think it’s better to go with a real gun than the chance that a stun round won’t work on them fast enough.
Blitz is the heiress to a former weapons manufacturer…
Not to mention, the furries seem to have easy access to them… here’s a theory: It’s not that guns are hard to get ahold of, it’s that the police aren’t allowed to pack heat on duty as a PR thing.
That would fit Blitz original observation of the police getting out resourced, that fueled her path choice
Well, police are supposed to be about maintaining peace, not fighting wars or armed criminals who have no problem shooting anyone that gets in their way
Wait, isn’t keeping armed criminals under control “maintaining peace”? That’s not a military job, if the police aren’t handling crime, what are they supposed to be doing? It is their job, they’re just poorly equipped to handle it due to the political climate.
No, their job is to maintain peace and order within their own communities, solve crimes and stuff like that, when criminals in the course of their activities start getting violent you bring in those specially trained to deal with violence: military type people
Problem is, any wiff of having military involved with maintaining order brings out the anti-military nutjobs and ‘police-state’ conspiracy idiots (and they are the same morons who complain when things get out of hand and the government don’t, or didn’t, use force to protect their shop/home/business)
Swagner is right; that would still be the police, as far as they’re first responders in an area and are trained specifically for day-to-day urban duties- and that includes armed criminals. The military is a bit of a last resort when it comes to internal strife, given that their training, methods and weapons are less restrained. Case in point: gang activities are handled mostly by the police in different, not the military. Only in failing states do we see them resorting to their military for internal threats.
Yes, some people are wary of soldiers being deployed as peacekeepers in their own country, but it’s not so much conspiracy theory as it is the differences in their training and execution of duties.
The military type people you mention would be SWAT and their equivalents, but those are still officers in law-enforcement rather than from the armed services.
I am fairly certain that this is the case, although it would be less about PR and more about lawsuits.
That is the best uniform I have ever seen. Damn. Stunning.
It’s 100% the hat.
The goggles and the headphones look pretty bad-ace as well.
True that! Boy is full on Rougish Charm at the moment.
Hold on… Isn’t that 35′s EM katana at Ben/Donner’s side?
Same handle, same color, same general shape, smells the same, looks the same.
If it smells like a katana, looks like a katana …
… it’s actually a kebab >.>
and it goes ‘shish!‘ through the air <.<
The Internet would normally call for a public execution.
But I approve.
The guard is not the same. The length is slightly longer. The blade is more pointed. This is the first copy.
Also would not be surprised if the original was broken when being dissected by papi.
Donner, party of 3. Sorry, somebody had to say it.
If Donner throws a party, I am NOT attending.
But I hear the food is to die for!
Actually that looks really good on him
WOW Ben is looking rather nice in that… uniform? Costume? Anyway it looks fantastic!
(I was also thinking reindeer. Makes sense though! Are all of Santa’s dear named germen names…?)
Dancer, Prancer and Comet are english.
Cupid is the roman modernization of Eros
And just to complete the list:
Dasher is also English
Vixen is the word for a female fox in English
Donner/Donder and Blitzen are derived from the German words for thunder and lightning, though, according to wikipedia.
So, yeah, a bunch of English words with two random German words thrown in for no good reason other than that it rhymed I guess.
I made this edit. Somebody kill me pls
More accurately, I made this mere hours before this update hit because really everybody shoulda known it was Ben
Christ that’s a cool costume.
Donner officially has the best costume in the whole comic
Hells yes, let’s get some Donner action. (So it’s true that anyone can get a gun these days, including apparently a, what, fourteen-year-old? As if a taser was not bad enough.)
A fourteen-year-old who knows Steffi’s dad. They also have 42 and knockout gas that “might not be strictly legal”. They don’t exacly respect the law when it comes to their heroics.
When I said I would make the dorky costumed Ben into an avatar…
I wasn’t prepared for this epic.
You make this anyways. It is too epic to not be made into an avatar.
Without resizing, I have two images now. One with his legs, one without:
I tried to keep the Katana in there, which I think is the EMP Katana 39 used? Am I mistaken?
Make sure to capture the full tie.
I WANT HIS HAT. THAT IS ALL.
My best guess is this:
Way to ruin the mood, Ben.
Also, yay for teenagers with firearms! There is no way this could possibly go wrong. ^^
I know this was probably said jokingly, but I *was* a teenager with firearms. I was captain of my highschool’s marksmanship team. Yes we learned how to handle firearms safely and maturely. We also tried to educate others on those topics. Much as I hate people shifting the blame for gun violence onto the guns themselves, video games, movies, or whatever it is that the current hate mongers don’t want people to watch, saying that simply putting a firearm into the hands of someone “underage” will have dire consequences is just as irresponsible.
Fortunately we’ve already seen that Benzene is quite mature for his age, and not likely to “go off half-cocked” (pardon the gun pun). If anyone in this comic who is not a police officer should have a gun, it should probably be him.
Hate break it to you, but teenagers don’t have fully developed brains, and one of the area that is underdeveloped [and ironical isn't full developed until 25] the the area responsible for long term choices as well as multi-step decisions . There is a very good reason teens are known for making rash decisions that only consider the immediate consequences.
I’m pretty sure darn sure you shooting club activities had adult supervision and did not involve teens going about their daily lives with holstered pistols.
Are you saying that had there not been supervision, a marksmanship club would have turned into a bloodbath? If teenagers are all that dangerous, I’m surprised that we let them drive, let alone without supervision!
Not a bloodbath per say, but rather fortunately levels of accents.
as to the car allegory, have you seen the premium hikes insurance companies charge to add an under 25 to your issuance policy?
The only reason 15-16 have historical be allowed to drive was so they co help in the family bigness, Many places put lots of restrictions on under age driver’s licenses, like no driving at night, and who can and can not be a passenger
You make a good point there, and I’m not saying that leaving teens alone with weapons a good idea, but I’d also throw in that, (in my experience, at least) people new to an activity, regardless of their age, tend to be bad at it (and consequently, dangerous). I suspect that simple lack of experience (and subsequent lack of neural connections, lol) makes said teens dangerous more than their actual age does, and that an inexperienced 30 year old could be similarly dangerous without training (after all, you have to pass a driving test to get a license, regardless of age).
tl;dr: a n00b adult <= pr0 teen (for certain values of pr0 & n00b)
This is all well and good, but the members of “teen shooting clubs” (a.k.a. “NRA Youth Indoctrination Camps” in America) are a miniscule subset of the number of teens in any given country. In short, you only represent indoctrinated teens, not normal teens.
“You’re an ‘indoctrinated minority’, and I represent the ‘majority’, therefore you’re crazy and don’t count” is not a valid debate tactic. Argument ad hominem is fallacious reasoning. If your argument stems entirely from “I think everyone agrees with me, therefore I’m right”, then you have no basis for your argument, and you may be unpleasantly surprised at how few people actually agree with you. After all, just like not everyone who’s interested in soccer has been on a soccer team, not everybody who likes guns was in a shooting club!
How about “you represent only teens educated about gun safety in a class specifically designed to teach this”. Because letting teens drive is bad enough. (And I’m speaking as a teenager here; my law teacher once said that he’d rather walk through the Korean DMZ than my high school’s parking lot.)
Okay, first off, you’re insulting someone who you don’t know by accusing him of being indoctrinated. And he never said his gun club was NRA sponsored. You’re assuming that. (Protip: There is more than one pro-gun group in the world. He never even specified what COUNTRY he lives in.)
Also you’re insulting someone who’s already told us he is trained in the use of firearms, and that’s just bad practice. Soloran seems like a rational fellow, but not every trained marksman on the Internet is the same.
On to your actual point, Ben is probably more like these “indoctrinated teens” than a “normal teen.” I reject your highly insulting terminology, but those are the words you used.* He’s trained in the martial arts, and has already demonstrated combat skill with a stun gun. His character is one that would have studied his firearm purchase (before even buying it), chosen it based on rational needs and qualities, practiced cleaning it, disassembling it, and caring for it. And only THEN would he load it with bullets at a firing range to practice. Seriously, people. Ben’s a pretty established character and has traits that have never changed. Stop reducing him to “a teenager” and generalizing. Look at the person, not the group.
*If you said “Homosexual teens” and “normal teens,” then I know a bunch of people who’d have words for you. Similarly “Liberal teens” or “Muslim teens” or “Catholic teens.” Please don’t assert that children who live YOUR preferred lifestyle are “normal” and all others are ipso facto “abnormal.”
Even if kids who shoot form a minority, by no means does it make them evil or immoral. It just means they know how to handle firearms and they just happen to be a small part of population.
You have no right to judge Soloran or those like him simply because of their age and their involvement with weapons, however controversial firearms are in this day or age. It just doesn’t follow. It’s to punish someone for a crime they haven’t committed. It’s to judge someone whom you don’t even know.
Do you even know what they were taught at his youth-based gun club? Most responsible gun training involves a heavy stress towards safety, responsibility and the consequences of shooting something or someone, even if justified. How do you know that their instruction makes them more likely to hurt someone rather than less?
Do not think that the extreme, irrational rhetoric only belongs to the side of this issue you dislike. By making such a biased statement yourself, you do the anti-gun side no favors.
That costume is TERRIFIC. And I bet Ben had a lot of fun putting it together too.
Your move, Steff.
Thinking on the costume Ben/Donner is wearing, one nice thing about an old school overcoat like that is that you could hide some kind of armor behind it. Like highly bullet resistant trauma plates and such. So he might not even end up concerned if the Uzi gets swung at him.
From the looks of it, you could almost get away with CURRENT full-plate body armor under there, not to mention whatever spacefuture stuff they may have come up with by then. And considering that we’re currently actually pretty close to being able to make useful quantities of carbon nanofibers, the coat itself might be pretty close to indestructible so all he needs is something to catch the impact force for him.
I don’t doubt that Ben/Donner’s garb would probably be hard to cut or pierce. That doesn’t however help much against bullets much given that almost all of it is SOFT FABRIC type stuff (very helpful against swords though). Which is why I mentioned it was capable of concealing things like trauma plates which are very good against those. And hiding a well fitted suit of plate isn’t hard, keeping the noise down is the trick.
So does that make 42, Comet? Or Vixen?
Female that wears a animal mask, Vixen is basically screaming out here 8)
I agree, her penchant for masks combined with her perma-smile… she HAS to be “Vixen”. Steffi’s papa has to be Santa seeing as he’s constantly giving her cool gifts.
If she is Vixen, and Papa is Nick…Team name X-Mass?
I sort of think they’ll stick to German storm words…Regen? Hagel? Luft? Luft actually fits… (Rain, Hail, and Wind, respectively)
I want this. How can I get Donner to be my Gravatar? Dude is awesome, fully invoking the greatcoat.
All you have to do is go to http://gravatar.com, sign in with a WordPress account, and upload your pic. Then whenever you come back here to leave a comment on a page update, just use the email address associated with your WordPress/Gravatar account and it’ll automagically use your awesome new Donner avatar!
All together now:
HO GOD, IS BENZENE! HO GOD YES!
42 has a new outfit. Ben has officially joined the vigilante club and is donning a fantastic new costume.
Now I’m so excited to see Blitz’s new outfit!
Don’t you mean, Donnering a fantastic new costume? >.>
I’m digging Ben’s outfit here – great design!
Oh no pressure Steffi, but you need to outshine Ben with your costume since you’re the main hero and all – looks like it’s going to be pretty difficult.
Oh man, I didn’t see this coming at ALL. …And I still don’t because I never envisioned Benzene holding a gun? REGARDLESS. This is amazing.
Just imagine. He could have been Comet instead!
I have to say, I’m liking Ben’s outfit. It fits his character as a prepared and practical dude. He’s got kneepads, workgloves, boots, all of which will keep you from minor injury if you expect to see a lot of action. Not to mention an actual lethal ranged weapon to handle actual lethal situations.
The tie though could be a liability in a close fight.
Unless you are wearing lycra, any loose-fitting clothing can be a liability in a close fight, including a jacket like Bennie-boy is wearing (grab the ‘mantle’ and you can toss him around like a dog with a chewtoy)
That analogy was absolutely perfect, you know that?
That was the pointer
That disguise actually works pretty well, I legitimately thought it was a new character when I first saw it.
(And I too thought it was a reindeer reference.)
I can’t even think of the right word to describe his outfit he’s like a fusion of a paladin, a pirate, a ninja and a French guy
Cowboy samurai? (duster + katana)
the cap screams English not French to me though
Yeah, almost like a paper boy’s cap: “Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Dogman bewildered at sudden power shift!”
Personally I think “Carriage Driver”. The servantish look (Seems lacking in “leadery” showiness.) combined with the martial influences make for a great bodyguard costume. Also for some reason I can’t unhear the theme from the Trombe Override meme and I only listened to it a few times before!
Yeah, that coat fits perfectly with the ‘Carriage Driver’ idea
IMO it’s sort of steampunkish.
Makes me think “Steampunk DMC Virgil”
Paladin Pirate Ninja French guy? Spike Spiegel, Cowboy Beebop right?
Is nobody else going to comment on the irony of Canis — A DOG-MAN — asking Ben “the hell are you supposed to be?” Oh, so it’s okay to have giant floppy beagle ears but wearing a greatcoat is over the line?
TIL that greatcoats are a thing.
Ben looks awesome but this is really really scary. Our kids are playing with ACTUAL GUNS here and the comic has shown a willingness to take that seriously in the past ;-;
Go up a bit and have a read from Soloran, who was a marksman in high school. Ben is a highly mature young man, trained (and excelling) in martial arts, and has shown time and again that he doesn’t do things recklessly. Ben did not think “OH HURR HURR I’MA GET A GUN AND SHOOT FURRIES LOL.”
Unless he massively breaks character, he knows every in and out of that firearm, has fired off a good number of rounds at a range, and can clean it and care for it safely. Someone might get shot — but it’s not going to be because “a kid had a gun.” If someone gets shot by that gun, it’ll most likely be because Ben wanted to shoot them (or because Ben gets disarmed in combat). And we know Ben won’t just go around shooting people, since that’s just not Ben.
I certainly hope he got it through Steffi’s dad, because otherwise teenagers can apparently get guns pretty easily.
They also can get access to ‘not-fully legal’ gasses/chemical weapons
Ben has shown himself to be precociously responsible and scrupulous. I don’t think it’s right to say he’s “playing with actual guns”; he’s simply *not playing*. In fact, he and Steffi stopped being friends for awhile in Track 7 because he thought Steffi was being reckless and practically suicidal in her being a superhero. He joined Steffi in the Fuzzy Navel caper specifically to keep her safe.
Furthermore, if you’re worried about Ben having a gun, why aren’t you worried about Steffi going around town in what is a high-tech, walking *tank* armed with much larger weapons and capable of simply crushing or ramming people to death? It’s not like her opponents are people in their own battle robots.
You also don’t seem concerned that their opponents are packing serious heat as well as genetic modification.
Lastly, how do you know Ben’s carrying a real or loaded weapon?
If his weapon wasn’t real or loaded, he would be a complete opposite of what you just portrayed him as
Does this mean Ben is claiming Top billing, not sidekick status?
while scientifically thunder follows lighting, however we say Thunder and Lightning
also Donner comes before Blitzen in the poem.
I doubt that highly. Ben isn’t as attention-hungry as Steffi.
Ahh! Donner is such a good name for him! Like, the tie in between the two names is awesome? And Lightning is all flashy and noticeable, but Thunder is always right behind, solid and strong. And it also just really suits his face!
Yes, yes, good, good.
That friggen costume is so friggen fantastic. It’s just so, so good. Reminds me of captain’s uniforms from steampunk, oddly enough…
So, Ben’s a Tegami Bachi?
Ben’s a Kuzunoha?
I was not aware Naoto Shirogane had Irish relatives.
Actually, now that I think about it, he looks more like Raidou Kuzonoha.
So Ben just keeps getting cooler. I like how they were all non-lethal and now Ben’s packing a god damned revolver and a katana (possibly the EMP one?). Shit just got real bitches.
No, shit got real when the automatic weapons were first broken out. Shit got UNREAL when Ben had all these conversations while the perp is still one twitch of his trigger finger away from putting a serious hurt on Cho. Rather than discussing the origin of his name, Ben needed to be disarming the perp.
Easier said than done. Talking a guy with a gun down from using it is a effective disarmament tactic, provided you have sufficient leverage in the negotiation.
A gun pointed to your head is an effective bargaining chip in this sort of situation. Of course, the gun pointed at Cho is also a chip, but I think Donner could get his shot off before Canis does. No guarantee though.
So will the dad be named Thor. Like the master of thunder and lightning?
If you think Steffi dad is anything close to the master of Steffi you and I aren’t reading the same comic
The amount of laughter that joke got out of me is unacceptable.
Benny,boy,I hope you know what you’re doing…
Considering that his snub there doesn’t seem cocked,I don’t think he plans on actually firing it,and is instead banking on Cho to use the distraction to neutralize Canis. And while she’s busy with that,he’ll probably end up beating feet. Because a civilian with a slugthrower is probably a bad thing in the Kiwiverse Big Apple,so a kid with said slugthrower is probably WORSE.
That said,it would only take a fraction of a second for Donner to cock the weapon while pointing it down,then pull a Skyrim Guard on Canis.
You’re assuming that the shown revolver works exactly like today’s revolvers, which we do not know. No reason a revolver couldn’t be designed to not need to be cocked on the first shot, it would just take some mechanical assistance. Probably increase the complexity of the firearm, but that’s typically true of more advanced technology. An assault rifle is significantly more likely to break than a pointy iron rod, but I’d rather have the AR in a firefight.
And again with assuming that all kids are irresponsible jackasses! Ben is very mature and highly responsible! He’s not just “a kid with a gun.”
Seriously, if the cops wanted to charge him with any crimes, he’d be in adult court, not juvenile, because he acts and thinks more like a 25-year-old than a 14-year-old.
Metal Storm ftw?
Plenty of revolvers are, and were, dual-action: pull the trigger cocks and fires the weapon (the image of ‘cowboys’ slapping the handle in a shootout was just Hollyweird BS)
Not saying that there weren’t (and still are) revolvers that had/have to be manually cocked everytime
It wasn’t a “Kid with a gun” remark. I have a similar attitude for ANYONE on the good guy team with a gun. I know that a firearm is simply a tool,which can be properly and improperly used,despite never touching one. Seems like common sense on that part. But I’d never touch one without training. Too much can go wrong.
Anyways~ The exposed hammer made me think the weapon was single-action,and police,in my experience,don’t care about the context of what is done,only that it is done. Then again,my living in Middle-Of-Nowhere,Ontario might be a factor there.
Besides,this snub has a relatively compact,if heavy,frame,which means there’s little room for bells and whistles. While the systems for a double-action mechanism are quite small and simple,I’d imagine such a weapon might be more expensive/difficult for Benzene to get ahold of.
And then there’s still the whole “Civilian with firearm” thing. Where it seems a good 70% of the police force doesn’t. The fact that Benzene is still a minor will only cause a BIGGER hullabaloo for the NYPD. “If a kid is willing to get and use a firearm,then how are we going to respond to this? How can we contain this? How can we preempt this?”
…Yes,I overthink things. Stop looking at me like that!
All SA revolvers need exposed hammers to work, but not all revolvers with exposed hammers are SA. A DA revolver can have either an exposed, shrouded or (completely) internal hammer.
While revolvers are usually heavier than pistols of the same size, one design feature of snubbies is that they’re deliberately made to be both light and compact. Snubbies were made for concealed carry, hence the very short snubnosed, reduced ammo capacity and shorter grip. That said, the reduction in weight means greater felt recoil and the shorter barrel means they’re harder to aim (shorter sight index). Most people find them uncomfortable to fire and difficult to use; it’s just that they’re great as extra or backup weapons and they’re convenient in carrying around.
Indeed, DA revolvers are quite simple in operation compared to semi-automatic pistols, they’re still more complex than traditional SA revolvers- which is why it’s easy to tell if a revolver is SA or DA just by looking at it.
More to the point, snubbies are much cheaper than their more full-size counterparts, while the durability and long life of revolvers means they’re not hard to get in RL- where the Blitzverse is near-future, I’d say Donner didn’t have a hard time getting one, albeit illicitly.
You attitude about not touching even the simple, easy-to-fire revolver is a wise one. I truly applaud that.
Anyway, police and other authorities will indeed care about the context of what is done, including the carrying and use of a firearm, as far as it’s necessary for accurate evaluation of an act. However, if the law specifically bans someone below an age limit from carrying a gun, then that’s out of the window.
And here I do agree with your point about a civilian- especially a kid- carrying a gun where even police can’t (as stated by Tigris in page 333). Cube explained that they switched to stun guns mainly to avoid lawsuits, but I’m guessing civilians are under a similar ban or just as tight restrictions. Donner carrying a real gun is a blatant breach of the law, even if he’s fighting to protect society.
Revolvers have either a Single Action (SA) mechanism or Double Action (DA) mechanism. SA revolvers need to be cocked (hammer pulled back to turn the cylinder and ready the hammer to strike) before each shot. This is why we have what is known as “fanning” (left hand rapidly and repeatedly slams the hammer for rapid fire); no, Guesticus, it wasn’t Hollywood BS.
DA revolvers can be fired simply by pulling the trigger (pulling the trigger does everything- rotates the cylinder, readies the hammer and releases it at the end of the trigger pull). There’s no need to cock the hammer before firing, whether for the first shot or any subsequent shot.
If a DA revolver has an exposed hammer, it can also be fired SA. Pulling back the hammer readies it in the same way as an SA revolver. The advantage of this is it lightens/decreases the trigger pull; firing DA usually means a long and heavy trigger pull to fire while going SA means the only added forced need for the trigger is to release the hammer.
In Ben’s case, he just needs to pull the trigger to fire his gun as his gun is DA (based on its design). It’s this simplicity of use that makes revolvers still a popular choice of firearm today despite semi-automatic pistols having more, double or even triple the magazine capacity of revolvers.
Huh. I thought DA revolvers needed to be cocked prior to the first shot (but not subsequent ones). Guess I was wrong on that one.
You’re thinking of semi-automatic/autoloader pistols. To be specific, you pull back the slide to chamber a round which also cocks its hammer. The firing of that cartridge powers the mechanism to automatically chamber the next round and cock the hammer. In this case, the 1st shot would be SA but the subsequent shots are DA. That said, the trigger pull in both cases would be lighter, thus making it easier to fire the weapon as compared to a DA revolver.
That said, there are indeed 2 kinds of revolvers that work just like that: the Webley autorevolver and the Mateba autorevolver (made famous by the character Togusa from the anime/manga Ghost in the Shell). They have a revolving cylinder but both are mounted on a slide mechanism. You manually cock the 1st shot with subsequent shots being automatically cocked. Both guns didn’t catch on for various reasons.
Also, this is now my third-favorite webcomic!
It seems my earlier comparison of Kiwi Blitz to Green Hornet wasn’t so far off the mark.
Thunderbolt and Lightning, Very Very Frightening
Gallileo, gallileo, gallileo, gallileo,
Gallileo figaro magnifico
You, sir, deserve a cookie.
At least he never read this comic for the reindeer names
42 and Benny’s outfits are awesomes – props Cube!
Let us just hope they don’t meet the same fate as Swooshy Cape did…
Battle Armor Blitz is next to make an entrance. One location for it.
I don’t know why but his outfit makes me think of the uniform that the group “NOL” wears in blazblue…
I just realized:
How do we know Donner isn’t bluffing?
There are lots of lifelike replicas and toy guns out there. Or if his snubby is real, why can’t it be unloaded? Donner could have just placed dummy rounds in it.
It might be loaded with stun round cartridges too.
Here’s another cookie.
Is it bad that when I hear Donner, I think of the ill fated Donner Party…
What do you mean those reindeer names actually meant something!
im just gonna lie down and squee for abit…
I’ll be joining Shadow of the chesire in their squee.
just call me shad or shadow XD
I have been waiting so long for this moment, ever since it was first mentioned in one of your streams.
It’s even more glorious than I expected.
I think I have a cosplay project. Can we get a 360 of this costume for reference purposes?
Lesse, Four visible rows of buttons on the enclosure, but probably five all told, since the fourth row doesn’t look high enough. My guess is the fronpience is like the rocketeer jacket and has a zipper underneath, though it could work without that. It looks like the cape is either somehow attached under the collar, is permanently sewed on, or there is an element I’m not seeing. The cuffs look like they’re turned-up, like the child of a regular cuff and a french cuff. There’s some kind of band at the elbows, but I’m not sure what exactly is the deal there, though it looks like it’s a belt or strap of some kind (ELBOW PADS, DUH). The collar is pretty classic, and reinforces my assumption about a zipper or buttons, since it wouldn’t hold that shape if it were disjointed from the main body of the garment. I don’t see any pockets on the jacket (nor any belt loops?) I’m not sure on the material though, it looks light, but could easily be canvas. Based on the fact that it’s flowing nicely, and that it’s meant for active wear, I’m guessing it isn’t.
Pants look pretty standard if baggy, probably made of khaki by the way they fall.
Shin guards look pretty normal, wouldn’t be hard to make a pair out of EVA foam or to modify an existing pair.
The shoes are… I dunno, they’re shoes. I’m guessing they’re probably sneakers, running shoes, or padded skateboarder’s shoes.
That flat cap is pretty sweet. It’d be a custom do up probably. Looks like the same cloth as the jacket.
Gloves look like leather/faux leather biker gloves. Not a lot to say there.
Finally, the goggles and headphones are easy enough. There are similar enough products ready.
Oh, almost missed the tie. Same material as jacket, or maybe lighter, schoolboy knot, and yeah. Unless there’s a perfectly square necktie knot I’ve not heard of…
All in all, gotta love this costume. That jacket is probably the most complicated part of it though, and probably represents most of the work. I think in making it I’d add pockets though, since pockets are awesome, and I’d probably make the duster cape thing attached with buttons and detachable, since modularity in clothing is always cool.
Hey hey Mary hey. Something’s wrong with the page progression. It skipped completely over the page right before this one. I can only get to it if I hit Back from this page. Weeeeiiird.
Also, Ben is even more fantastic now. I love that costume. HE EVEN HAS A TIE. Wow. Just wow.
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