So the answer to “where did Ben get that gun” is “Page 297″
Continuity is nice.
Hmm… so contrary to Chekhov’s Gun, Nate’s Gun is just a prop?
We will never know now, will we?
Nice try, Canis. (Revolvers don’t have safeties the same way pistols and other guns do- or it’d be a really rare one that did. At most they may have a safety lock, but that’s quite a different thing.)
I do agree that Ben’s not a killer, so it’s a good thing Cho picked up on Canis being distracted.
but most of them do have a manual hammer, which is what dogman was referencing to, ben didn’t arm the gun by pulling back the hammer
Most modern revolvers are double action. Pulling the trigger with the hammer down will still fire the gun, as long as the next cylinder is loaded.
Oh, and this too.
I don’t think pulling the #hammer on that particular #revolver is necessary
We’ve already gathered that Natrix (the former owner of #donnersnewrevolver) is kind of a not-fighting-guy, so a revolver with a manual hammer would be just a bit too slow to prepare if, let’s say, a guy in a wolf suit decides to pull a taser on him at a moment’s notice.
It’s pretty easy to tell the difference between a single action revolver and a modern double action just by how they look. Old school SAs are very slim, round and minimal behind the cylinder and around the hammer. DAs have an extension of the frame/mechanism in that area. Just Google up the Colt Single Action Army (the poster boy for SA revolvers; they almost all look like that) and compare it with, say, a modern Smith & Wesson Model 686 or a Colt Detective Special.
Natrix’s/Donner’s is definitely a modern DA revolver.
Double Action revolvers don’t need to have their hammer cocked to be ready to go off. that’s their primary advantage/innovation over the Single Actions of old. And based on the design of Donner’s gun, that’s definitely a DA wheelgun.
(Not likely for Cube to make a mistake in that area either; she visually referenced the Uzi, so I’m sure she researched the design of snub nosed revolvers. That’s very strong practice among Japanese manga artists and one who follow at school of art.)
Ben/Donner is getting more and more badass as this comic goes on xD
After seeing what name you put, bet Benjie-boy is glad he didn’t have a thing for large white English cliffs…
Lesson: even if Ben doesn’t have the balls, Cho DOES.
that awkward moment when a fat chick has more balls than you.
I dunno, I’m still pretty sure Ben woulda put the doggy down if he
A.) Fired at Cho
B.) Tried to do anything that didn’t involve putting the Uzi on the ground
“Stupid kid, all he did was… distract… the…”
Plot twist: he was actually saying “backbone” before Cho zapped him.
Or perhaps “ballastics skills to shoot me even at this range.”
BACON! He doesn’t have the BACON!
come on poeple its obvious he doesnt have the balloons.
“…I still say you don’t have the ba–”
Well, she certainly does.
The judges would also have accepted, “Well, the transfer bar safety is always on, but I wasn’t planning on dropping it.”
canis: “I still say you dont have the ba-”
cho: “SURPRISE MOTHERFUQER.”
glad ben/donner didnt fall for the good old the safety is stil on trick.
At least /someone/ shot him.
Now where the meow is Raccoon?
Looks like in the end the stun pistol does win.
Hate to say “I told you so” to everyone the other day, but I kept pointing out that Ben would have done extensive research on his weapon. And now we know that he knows his firearm better than a grown man. Er, dog. Man-dog. Dog-man?
Canis was trying to trick Benjie-boy into taking his eyes off of himself, enabling himself to shoot Benjie-boy and/or Chubs
Chubs? Really? :/
Of course it was just a trick. It’s also immaterial, since what matters is that not only was Ben fully aware he didn’t have a safety on, he was aware it didn’t even exist on that revolver and similar revolvers. So he didn’t just look at it and say “oh hey its got no safety.” He researched it and noted that all similar revolvers also lack safeties.
Interestingly enough, I stumbled upon a .357 Revolver which *had* a safety that blocked the hammer striking the pin. Nobody ever uses it as it only makes sense when the hammer is cocked and why would you cock it when you are not ready to shoot at a blink. Most pointless feature on a revolver ever.
So it wouldn’t have been possible for the hammer to catch on something, get pulled back a bit, and then released to possibly fire a round if the cylinder was loaded? Because that seems to be a plausible reason for a safety like that. Then again, some regulation that states that “every firearm must have a safety” seems even more plausible.
You’re either referring to
a) safety locks, or
b) hammer blocks.
Safety locks are key-operated mechanism that do just what you say. They’re not an “in-field” safety mechanism, but one for the home, when in storage. That way, someone couldn’t just find a gun and accidentally discharge it- like a child.
That said, most people just HATE them. They’re redundant where responsible gun owners will not leave their guns around for children of strangers to find. But MORE TO THE POINT some of them have a nasty habit of accidentally engaging. That means that they can suddenly stop a gun right when its owner needs it. Really bad in a self-defense scenario.
Hammer blocks are automatic/passive/non-activated and internal. They are found in Double Action revolvers. They prevent accidental discharges by blocking the hammer from striking while the trigger is not pressed. They prevent situations like Gillsing’s accidental snagging and discharging. That way, the gun only fires when the trigger is pulled. (Note: the double action mode trigger pull of a revolver is quite heavy and long, so it takes a lot to do an accidental discharge through the trigger anyway.)
That said, this is not something you turn on or off. It’s automatic and built-right into the system. As such, Canis’ attempt at distraction is still nonsense with it.
Also, that’s something you DO WANT in a revolver. There have been cases of revolvers falling or getting bumped and going off with tragic results
Double Action revolvers can instead have a transfer bar that works differently but makes sure the gun only fires by trigger pull.
Single Action revolvers don’t have safeties because they only fire after the hammer is cocked (which is why those trick shooters who juggle their guns as part of a performance don’t end up shooting themselves or anybody else).
HAH! That made me laugh so much.
Cho’s lying. She TOTALLY wanted to interrupt that nonsense. XD
I love how he kept his poker face while getting shot by stun bullets.
No, I think his eyes just don’t get any wider than that anymore.
Sorry, but I’m pretty dead set in thinking that he just doesn’t care.
Dude, those are some well drawn guns. They have more lines than the characters.
And thus ends the “I can spout more cliches than you can” battle.
First comes thunder than comes a shock :3
Ah, I <3 Cho.
I wonder if you really need 5 stun bullets to subdue someone though.
Ah well, better safe than sorry.
Firstly, if I had to listen to that I would likely do the same. Secondly, the Ox is highly resistant to stunning, so better safe than sorry!
Technically that’s a stolen gun, no matter how Nate acquired it (one way or the other). He better hope Cho looks the other way…
Yes, she’s going to worry about arresting the guy who probably just saved her life before going and saving her compatriots. OR NOT.
Technically, that’s a real gun, not even the police are allowed to have ‘real’ guns (we don’t know whether the Commish is or isn’t allowed to have one for certain yet)
The ENEMY has real guns too! Cho isn’t an idiot, she’s definitely not gonna worry about questionably-legal allies BEFORE absolutely-illegal enemies!
I’m sure the commish is allowed one where Reed’s dad has a real gun as well.
Ooo! Gutsy move on Cho’s part! I would not have wanted to be in her shoes if he squeezed from a spasm. ^^;
You don’t believe she would have moved to the side before shooting him, repeatedly?
NO DONNER TAG GG CUBE
I laughed harder than I needed to.
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